We’re a couple of months into the harvest by now, and the beans are coming in strong. It’s been a season that starts early and ramps up slowly. The same is happening with the flowers: we got our first buds in late January, and although we’re pollinating every day, the number of flowers we’re seeing has increased slowly since then.
Unseasonably Dry Year
This year has brought an unusual period of dry weather, which is affecting everything around the homestead. Young vanilla plants are especially vulnerable and several columns in the new vanillery have suffered setbacks and failed to grow. We’re taking the unusual step of having to hand water to keep things growing. Mature vanilla plans are quite drought-resistant, but these new guys are having a hard time developing the essential feeder roots needed for that kind of robustness.
In the main vanillery, insect pests that usually don’t pose much of a problem are setting up shop and doing some damage. We’re taking care of that, but being an organic grower means that what we need to do takes more work and time. It’s all about gentle and persistent measures when you work with nature.
Yes, It’s Looking Great
Despite the challenges, in general the vanillery is thriving and healthy, plenty of beans to harvest for this year and the flower buds are everywhere, signaling another good crop in 2023.
Hi, I grow a few vanilla vines on the northshore. Just started sweating about 2 lbs of beans using your guidelines. Only I’m using a water heated towel warmer in place of an ice chest, have it set at 115 degrees. I’m in my 3rd day, beans are brown, soft and moist but not sticky. Do I have a problem ? Any advice. Thanks. Andy
No, sounds good. How did you “kill” your beans? If you put them in the freezer, then at first, there will be a lot of moisture that is mostly water. This will be gone in 4–5 days as you’re giving the beans some dry time every day. Beans that were killed in hot water don’t release as much moisture, so it has a thicker consistency.
Thanks, I had my beans in the freezer till all beans were harvested, then thawed them in water as per your suggestions. Now in my 5th day of sweating. When should the aroma of the beans change to more vanilla smell.
The vanilla aroma develops slowly over the course of the curing process. After 5 days, it’s won’t really smell like vanilla yet.
Thanks, I’m now in my 11th day of sweating. You indicate it takes about 18 days to complete the sweat, what am I looking for on my beans to know the sweat is done.
I always keep the beans in the sweat for at least 18 days, this is to ensure that the largest beans have enough time. You can go longer, I sometimes go 2 or 3 days more, but usually it’s just 18 days, then I move them to the open air drying racks.
I guess a more direct answer to your question is that I don’t look for any indication that they are “done” I just give them the time.
Andy, after two weeks in the sweat box the beans smell musty and leathery but no vanilla. After another couple of weeks of the drying process they start to smell like vanilla. This intensifies over the next two months of curing and it becomes intoxicating. I keep my beans in corked test tubes and take them out, massage them, and let them breathe every few weeks.
That’s great, sounds like things are going well with your curing!
How can one get vanilla extract
We’ve got extract for sale in our store.
Hawaiian Vanilla Extract
Thank you for all the great information!
Roland,
I notice ants on my racemes. They appear not to harm the raceme or the flowers. Should I leave them alone or are they detrimental to the health of my vanilla plants.
Hi Charles,
It’s pretty common to see ants on the racemes, and mostly it’s not a problem, but it is possible they are farming other insects which can be damaging, such as mealybugs. It’s a good idea to check every once in a while in place like under leaves or in places that are well protected and hard to see for insects taking up residence.
Is it possible to do a vist / tour on a Saturday.
Aloha Andy,
Sorry, no we only lead tours on Fridays, tomorow is booked, so the next opportunity for a tour is July 8, between 12:30 and 4 is open.
–Roland
Hi Roland, it’s been awhile since I posted but you have been an amazing resource for me here on Oahu doing a backyard hobby grow.
Starting to harvest the first of this years beans as they barely begin to crack, trying the freezer method this time.
Different question. I had some beans from 2 years ago (No flowers in 2021) and I pureed 10 of them into a quart of vodka and jarred it. It’s been a week and it looks good, and smells good. But, no where online have I noted anyone doing extract like this and wonder what the negatives to it are. Seems like in 2 weeks the extract will be more potent than the extracts I soaked for months with possibly more beans.
Thanks for any of your insights.
Dominick
We don’t puree the vanilla to make extract. We’ve tried it and in the long run, it doesn’t extract more efficiently, and it makes it much harder to strain the beans out when it’s ready. If you’re getting good results, you’ve got something you can use, that’s great…but if it was better than the usual methods, I’d expect it to be more commonly used, since it would be so simple and quick.
Appreciate the insights. I suspected something like that since I found nothing in online literature mentioning it.
I’ll see how it filters with a gold coffee filter in about a week.
how much water do you add to your extract and when do you add the water?can you just use pure alcohol/vodka? are there pros and cons to using alcohol water mix or pure alcohol.
Hi Lana,
We don’t add water, just use 80 proof vodka, which is of course 60% water. You need both water and alcohol for a good extraction, and 40% alcohol is about optimal.
Hello Roland,
Quick question. My vines put out 6 flower stalks initially this year. Pollinated as usual, then about 2 months later 11 more came. I was excited, but many seemed to get a black rot at the tips and are now mostly dead, some have a flower or 2 but the rest of the buds rotted.
Do you recommend spraying the initial stalk buds with any anti-fungal because I’m assuming it was a type of mold that killed them off.
Thanks
Dominick
This sounds more like a systemic issue with a fungus, in other words, it may be in the roots and affecting the whole plant. Do you see signs of disease anywhere else on the plant?
An issue like that can’t be avoided with a local application of fungicide. If it is a general fungal issue, it can be very hard to turn that around, and fungicides can’t reverse the problem. Fungal infections are typically due to sub-optimal growing conditions, but I can’t be too specific as I know nothing about how and where you are growing your vanilla.
Vanilla requires a healthy, diverse community of mycorrhizal fungi in the growing medium, and fungicides tend to disrupt that. The growing medium for vanilla needs a lot of decaying organic matter (think tropical rainforest floor) that stays mostly moist, although when thriving, vanilla is tolerant of dry periods as long as the roots are not exposed to the sun. If the proper conditions are not met in the growing medium, formerly beneficial fungi can become parasitic.
If the problem does not appear to be systemic, no signs of disease anywhere else on the plant, I suggest you pay close attention to the growing medium. Look for healthy feeder roots from the vanilla.
In any case, adding a good quality compost or potting soil to the growing medium is a good idea, but not too deep, vanilla roots like to stay on the surface of the soil, so don’t bury them too deep. A good mycorrhizal inoculant is a good idea to jumpstart the fungal diversity.
After that, just give the plant time to recover, it may take a year or more.